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*November 7: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3A1st_Lithuanian-Belarusian_Division&diff=170396488&oldid=170393385 assuming bad faith, accusing other editor of motivations such as 'attacking' and 'retaliating'] |
*November 7: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3A1st_Lithuanian-Belarusian_Division&diff=170396488&oldid=170393385 assuming bad faith, accusing other editor of motivations such as 'attacking' and 'retaliating'] |
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*November 23: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Krak%C3%B3w&diff=173208782&oldid=173202370 A neutral editor comments on Irpen's post (visible above), asking him "Perhaps you'd rather simply respond to the account I came across rather than berating Piotrus?"] |
*November 23: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Krak%C3%B3w&diff=173208782&oldid=173202370 A neutral editor comments on Irpen's post (visible above), asking him "Perhaps you'd rather simply respond to the account I came across rather than berating Piotrus?"] |
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*November 27: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Union_of_Lublin&diff=174226671&oldid=174221891 cabal accusation] followed up by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AUnion_of_Lublin&diff=174231652&oldid=174229788 "You habit to act off-wikipedia to achieve the onwiki goals have been exposed multiple times and since you never expressed any remorse or apology, even when caught red-handed with the most despeakable off-line actions, you gave no reason to believe that it has stopped."] |
*November 27: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Union_of_Lublin&diff=174226671&oldid=174221891 cabal accusation] followed up by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AUnion_of_Lublin&diff=174231652&oldid=174229788 "You habit to act off-wikipedia to achieve the onwiki goals have been exposed multiple times and since you never expressed any remorse or apology, even when caught red-handed with the most despeakable off-line actions, you gave no reason to believe that it has stopped."] finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Union_of_Lublin&diff=174238150&oldid=174233410 claims that ArbCom findings and warnings regarding him have been overturned by the community] |
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*November 30: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bereza_Kartuska_Detention_Camp&diff=prev&oldid=174973803 Irpen accuses Piotrus of hypocrisy] |
*November 30: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Bereza_Kartuska_Detention_Camp&diff=prev&oldid=174973803 Irpen accuses Piotrus of hypocrisy] |
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*December 1: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Russia/Russia-related_Wikipedia_notice_board&diff=175179652&oldid=175154537 assuming bad faith, accusing other editors of "inflaming a board"] |
*December 1: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Portal:Russia/Russia-related_Wikipedia_notice_board&diff=175179652&oldid=175154537 assuming bad faith, accusing other editors of "inflaming a board"] |
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G-arb for objection: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giano_II&diff=prev&oldid=173593364] |
G-arb for objection: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Giano_II&diff=prev&oldid=173593364] |
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==Dr. Dan inflaming Eeastern European topics== |
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I would like to ask for help with regards to a single extremely ucivil editor active in discussions about various Eastern European topics, an area which has been the subject of series of recent ArbCom rulings which noted the tendency for discussions and articles in that area deteriorating into wiki-battles, and the resulting need for civility enforcement. To be more specific: in the Piotrus case (closed on 19 August 2007), editors were [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus#Parties_reminded|reminded of the need to edit courteously and cooperatively in the future under the treat of further sanctions]]. In Digwuren's case (closed on 21 October 2007), several editors were banned, and the rest were [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#Editors_warned|warned not to use Wikipedia as the battleground]] and [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Digwuren#General_restriction|placed under general restriction]] ("should the editor make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, he may be blocked for the duration specified in the enforcement ruling below"). |
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I believe that {{vandal|Dr. Dan}} has constantly - for well over a year - crossed boundaries we expect our editors to keep. Below I will present a sample of his incivil and disruptive edits since the last ArbCom ruling (Digwuren's case); please note that this is just a proof of the trend that continued for well over a year. For an evidence of a long pattern of disruption - dating to 2006, with dozens of diffs - see [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus/Evidence#Piotrus_evidence_against_Dr._Dan]]; please note that the user was warned about incivility multiplie times and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&page=User:Dr._Dan was blocked] for incivility once alraedy (in January 2007). |
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*October 5: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Lamest_edit_wars&diff=prev&oldid=162576662 inserts POVed essays into existing wikipedia namespace pages] |
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*October 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:PrimeHunter&diff=prev&oldid=162718481 accusation of stalking, usage of nicknames and editor's images] |
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*October 11: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Irpen&diff=prev&oldid=163951600 insists on using pictures on editors in discussion, objects to their removal, calls its censorsphip] |
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*October 14: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=prev&oldid=164558205 using the name of an editor he often is in conflict with in thread] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=prev&oldid=164878246 restoring it even when asked not to abuse his name] |
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*October 16: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&curid=309781&diff=165091031&oldid=165090216 edit summary calling other editor (Piotrus) with a nickname and accusing him of abuse and vandalism] |
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*October 17: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_%28geographic_names%29&diff=prev&oldid=165326533 linking images, annoying nicknames, off topic issues] |
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*October 18: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Hans_Frank&diff=prev&oldid=165517705 "you have mentioned on innumerable occaisions that you are a Jew"] - very relevant... |
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*October 18: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FOperation_Wilno&diff=165420163&oldid=165395355 false claim that Piotrus has invented a name for the article "This is another "special creation" of the Prokonsul's"] |
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*October 18: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3APonary_massacre&diff=165509275&oldid=131080252 again; section heading linking to editor's image, usage of nicknames, accusing editors of "play(ing) more mind games with this outrageous anti-Lithuanian bias", "Do back off of this one"] |
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*October 21: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AVoruta_%28newspaper%29&diff=166145747&oldid=166084542 average "helpful" comment by Dr. Dan] |
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*October 26: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AArticles_for_deletion%2FOperation_Wilno&diff=167335458&oldid=167333757 yet more sarcasm] |
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*October 27: after I explicitly asked him not to invent nicknames for me and use my photo ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Dan&diff=167336979&oldid=166514917]) he uses them [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Dan&diff=167460389&oldid=167341053 (October 27, 2007)] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Dan&diff=prev&oldid=167755022 (October 28), also claming that "he (Piotrus) has personally insulted me many times, has sought to censor me, and has demanded that I be "punished"] |
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*October 28: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karolina_Proniewska&diff=167757232&oldid=167714895 Using full name of an editor who asked him not to in an edit summary] |
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*October 31: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AKarolina_Proniewska&diff=168410553&oldid=168407007 implying the editors who disagree with him are trolls; referring to - "maybe now you can better understand Pilsudski's quote about what he was dealing with" the offensive quote that "Poles are morons"] |
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*November 1: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Karolina_Proniewska&diff=prev&oldid=168604546 uses's nickname in edit summary] |
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*November 4: a 'discuss editor' topic on how bad certain editor is and implying bad faith on the part of Polish editors: [[Talk:Karolina_Proniewska#Slightly_Off_topic]] |
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*November 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=169770208&oldid=169755550 using a REAL name of an editor despite requests not to do so and despite that editor NOT using his real name on Wikipedia (stalking?)] |
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*November 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jonas_Basanavi%C4%8Dius&diff=prev&oldid=169768855 sarcastic bad faith comments continue] |
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*November 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=169775151&oldid=169770977 uses editor nickname despite requests not to; revert warring over WP:POINT issue] |
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*November 7: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Dr._Dan&diff=prev&oldid=169792159 warned over POINTed edits does not express remorse] |
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*November 12 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=171374829&oldid=171325714 using nicknames, revert warring] ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=prev&oldid=171137402], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=prev&oldid=171042196]) |
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*November 15 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_article_candidates%2FJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=171819962&oldid=171769360 using editor's nickname] |
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*November 15 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AZalavas&diff=171812866&oldid=68485597" calls an article "a lot of irrelevant claptrap bordering on an ultra-Nationalistic rant" and "a portion of the plethora of imbecilities presented to us as an excuse for another "article""], note the sarcastic tone and various snide remarks |
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*November 16 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_article_candidates%2FJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=171963061&oldid=171819962 the above long comment copied to FAC discussion] |
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*November 16 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&curid=66951&diff=172012201&oldid=171974933 revert warring, using editor's real name in edit summary) |
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*November 17 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=prev&oldid=172017225 "This corraling of the same old group of Polish Wikipedians (and non-Poles too) to "vote" in support of its present format is an insult to the Wikipedia Project. The chorus of "''well written, well referenced''" blather must be either scripted or written by people who have a poor grasp of English, its grammar, and syntax, or giving us more proof that the non-existant Cabal, does in fact exist."] |
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*November 19 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Ypatingasis_b%C5%ABrys&diff=172631420&oldid=172606337 usage of nicknames in edit summary] |
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*November 19 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADr._Dan&diff=172822310&oldid=172643129 equate important Polish historical figure to Hitler] |
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*November 21 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:J%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=172859072&oldid=172857768 - accusing other editor of double standards and referring to him by a nickname - "The "prokonsul" has repeatedly used their efforts when it suits his purposes, yet relegates their efforts aside when he finds them to be objectionable or "offensive" to him"] |
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*November 21 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=173023664&oldid=172992152 "As for [[WP:CITE]] and [[WP:NEUTRALITY]] you have violated both the spirit and letter of the rules on both with your edits"] |
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*November 25 and following few days: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AFeatured_article_candidates%2FJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=173721324&oldid=173715926 flaming on FAC page combined with cabal accusations: "I have seem better term papers come out of a third-rate Community College... ...the majority of all of the votes on this page stem from individuals with "an axe to grind", who are presenting a one-sided picture of a cult of personality propaganda piece...a '''Support''' vote.... strikes me as oxymoronic, like so many passages in the current article...] finally [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Union_of_Lublin&diff=174238150&oldid=174233410 claims that ArbCom findings and warnings regarding him have been overturned by the community] |
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* December 3: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Szlachta&diff=prev&oldid=175633745 reverts and accuses an editor of "rv due to WP:IDON'TLIKEIT, regardless of your expertise on the subject of WP:OR"] |
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*December 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=176276816&oldid=176207485 ...stop playing games... you are hell-bent in creating more dissension and ill will between editors, by more non-neutral and biased editing...]. And in a follow-up edit, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=176297157&oldid=176289793 makes fun of editor's nickname at the same time as accusing them of arrogance: "why you didn't choose, "Pontifex Maximus", for your sobriquet instead of "Prokonsul""] - do note the reaction of a neutral editor to this: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=176303862&oldid=176297157] |
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*December 7: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJ%C3%B3zef_Pi%C5%82sudski&diff=176445469&oldid=176419910 in an edit summary, Dr. Dan makes fun of another editor's username, connecting it with] [[nihilism]] |
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About half of that editor's 500 edits (since June that year) are in discussion spaces (Article talk: 36.6% (183); User talk: 11.6% (58); Wikipedia talk: 1% (5)). As can be seen from the above sample, a very high percenatage of those constitute uncivil flaming. |
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User's contribution to mainspace are less disruptive but contain a high percentage of problematic edits. For example, in addition to edits with uncivil edit summaries linked above, consider the inflammatory potential of edits like those: |
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* November 22: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zalavas&diff=prev&oldid=173227376 removes a Polish name variant in contradiction of WP:NCGN guideline] |
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* December 6: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C5%BBeligowski%27s_Mutiny&diff=prev&oldid=176064773 moves an article to a non-neutral and not recommended by MoS name with "" marks] |
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* December 7: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Partitions_of_Poland&diff=prev&oldid=176298796 moves a stable article to a (mispelled) title] [[Talk:Partitions_of_Poland/archive_2#Requested_move|already rejected in a past RM] |
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Based on the above, and assuming that the above edits fall into "uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith" edits as defined in Digwuren's ArbCom linked above, I'd like to ask whether it is possible deal with this user, preferably banning him from Poland-related discussions, discussions involving Poland-related users, and Poland-related articles.--~~~~ |
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